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 Post subject: Klopfen und Vibration bmw k100rs Forum: Antrieb und Elektrik
PostPosted: Sat 2. Jun 2012, 19:32 
the problem is this: when working on single audible knock. The second problem (maybe not connected with the first), when moving to a lower gear can be heard clanging \ rustling \ crunch (unintelligible sound). help identify the source. On the steps of the central etoot sound is heard, when the transfer. For clarity, the video attached.


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PostPosted: Sat 2. Jun 2012, 19:59 
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Hi Metalist,
better post your question in English instead of using Google Translator or something similar. No one can get the substance out of above's translated German text.

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PostPosted: Sat 2. Jun 2012, 22:03 
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Ich denke , wenn man ein Video sich reinziehen kann , dann kommen auch die Antworten

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 Post subject: Re: Klopfen und Vibration bmw k100rs Forum: Antrieb und Elektrik
PostPosted: Sat 2. Jun 2012, 22:30 
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Hi Metalist,
better post your question in English instead of using Google Translator or something similar. No one can get the substance out of above's translated German text.

Das ist, glaube ich, nicht zielführend. Der Text ist scheinbar aus dem Russischen übersetzt worden.
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Im Leerlauf запишу Video morgen,

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PostPosted: Sun 3. Jun 2012, 05:25 
Ja, ich bin aus Russland, Mittel zur Übersetzung von Google. Ich bin mir sicher, dass das erhaltene komplette Kauderwelsch ...
Ich werde versuchen, bei Leerlaufdrehzahl Video aufzuzeichnen.
und auf den Stufen des zentralen, Beschleunigung und wird Gussrad Gas. der Ton in einem geringeren Ausmaß, aber es gibt.
Ich denke, der Text ist lesbar. Danke. ;)
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Yes I am from Russia, I translate by means of Google. I'm sure that I get the complete gibberish...
I'll try to record a video, at idle.
and at the Central entrance to the acceleration of the wheel and get gas. this sound to a lesser extent, but is manifested.
I think the text is read. Thank you. ;)


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PostPosted: Sun 3. Jun 2012, 09:55 


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PostPosted: Sun 3. Jun 2012, 12:03 
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Hi, nice to read you

your engine needs some checks. First for air leaks in the space unter the air filter and above the cylinder head. The rubber seals around the throttle-system are often leak. This causes a hard and rocking engine run like yours.

If you try to test the gears in idle, the stuckling engine gives their rumbling through to the gearbox and kardan. This is logic and no problem.

Start with checking the ignition, sparks, air leaks and synchronization. I could help you really well, but the distance... ;)

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PostPosted: Sun 3. Jun 2012, 12:54 
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The clearance of the rear wheel with engaged gear is really normal.

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PostPosted: Sun 3. Jun 2012, 13:26 
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Servus.

Hab mir erlaubt von dem Video den Ton rauszufischen und die Übersteuerungen zu eliminieren.
Die hörbarere Version kann man NIRGENDS :evil: anhören.
Wer weiss, wo ich mp3 Dateien (ohne zu Video zu konvertieren) ablegen kann?

Ich denke das "Geklopfe rechts ist bei kalter mkaschine normal.
Das Klopfen links vielleicht Falschluft - bei mir waren es lockere Schrauben am Krümmer vom ersten Zylinder.
Beim Endantrieb könnte das Eingangswellenlager schrott sein, das Spiel am Rad werte ich als bedenklich.
Bei mir ist das "Zweifingerbreit" und kommt vom Spiel an Kegelrad, Gelenken, Zapfen, Getriebe bis zur Kupplung.

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Zugegeben, ich bin schon etwas verrückt .
Aber ich bin nicht immer so!
Es gibt auch Zeiten da dreh ich völlig durch...... :D


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PostPosted: Sun 3. Jun 2012, 14:24 
Tomorrow audit cardan, lubrication grooves. The day after check clearance on the valves, adjustable air dampers to their synchronization. If the symptoms will accomplish your goal. Thank you very much friends! ;): Wave:
If you have any tips or recommendations would be grateful! ;)


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PostPosted: Sun 3. Jun 2012, 15:30 
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Hi Metalist,
please check whether all 8 bolts which are fixing the exhaust system to the cylinder head are at their place. You might have lost a few during driving. I had similar engine sound having lost three out of eight bolts.

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 Post subject: Re: Klopfen und Vibration bmw k100rs Forum: Antrieb und Elektrik
PostPosted: Fri 8. Jun 2012, 18:02 
Got to the rod, is clearly (to not put another), I saw that the oil is driving in the area of ​​the input shaft bearing on the output shaft which rotates clutch. Tuesday will go to a local shop to change the seal. show the number and size, try to calculate the equivalent. The stem itself is dry, not oil, weighs somewhere right on the exit. Because of it foiled a trip to the bike fest in Zelenogorsk. Adhesion built up like a clock, all soft and clear, with no complaints.
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PostPosted: Sat 9. Jun 2012, 06:40 
good day
The question arose about the oil output shaft coupling on the BMW k100rs.
Is it possible then that the oil there should be holding back his sleeve? Either this is the rod seal clutch transmits oil.
Got to the rod, is clearly (to not put another), I saw that the oil is driving in the area of ​​the input shaft bearing on the output shaft which rotates clutch. The stem itself is dry, not oil, weighs somewhere in the output. Clutch rebuilt as a clock, all soft and clear, with no complaints.
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PostPosted: Sat 9. Jun 2012, 08:14 
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may be there is your problem-no 1 to 6


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PostPosted: Sat 9. Jun 2012, 08:28 
Tell the cuff is filled with oil? is it normal? or should it remain dry? opinions on the forum rossiykom dispersed.
I think this is a seal on the shaft, but the guys say that changing the cuff coped with the problem. Cuff protects the unit from dirt and dust inside the stores, or a small amount of gear oil is released?


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PostPosted: Sat 9. Jun 2012, 09:23 
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Oil there is from the gearbox ; it's normal! Fix parts 1 to 6 and drive!


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PostPosted: Sat 9. Jun 2012, 10:37 
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Agreed with Uliver. Please use another translator as your messages makes no sense at times.

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PostPosted: Sat 9. Jun 2012, 10:45 
ok. under the collar №6 is filled with oil out of the box housing. is this normal?
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PostPosted: Sat 9. Jun 2012, 10:55 
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Yes. There will be some oil 'leaking' from the main gearbox area into the rubber boot (No 6), which is intentional so that the thrust bearing of the clutch pushrod is lubricated. No worries :thumbup:

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PostPosted: Sat 9. Jun 2012, 10:57 
o yes! thank you very much!:)


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